Kodak discontinuing film stocks!

[Scottness]

I'm passing this post on from the alt.movies.cinematography.super8 news group -- has anyone heard of this - is it true? - I assume it is since it's on the Kodak site!
Scottness

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Here is the strait scoop right off Kodak's web site. The following stock
numbers have been permanently discontinued, DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!!!
This is only a partial list. Download this PDF to see the full unholy story.
http://www.kodak.com/US/plugins/acro...nge/kn1aug2001
.pdf

Selected Sizes and Formats of Motion Picture Film Discontinued

In recent years, Kodak has expanded its portfolio of motion picture films at
an unprecedented rate - to bring new choices to customers. That process will
continue - because we remain committed to continuing our leadership in
motion picture film. Kodak currently offers 800+ motion picture film
products to the marketplace. Some are listed in our catalog; others are
special order items; all are carried in inventory. The cost and logistics
involved in stocking all of them and moving them through the supply chain -
has created a system that is bursting at the seams. Based on the
recommendations of an extensive Kodak study, we will begin an accelerated
process to eliminate some of the catalog numbers we offer. All film codes
have been retained, but the number of offerings within them has been
reduced. The products being eliminated are duplicate catalog numbers, or
products that have very minimal or no sales. Every attempt has been made to
ensure that there is an alternative product to meet your needs. The results
will help us better manage our inventory system, guarantee customer delivery
of key products with more certainty, and provide minimal disruption in the
marketplace. Below is a listing of products we intend to discontinue. The
first ?group? contains catalog-listed products; the second ?group? contains
non-catalog listed products. We will begin clearing the inventories of all
these products, starting immediately. These products will be available until
the end of the year 2001 or until stocks are depleted. For more information,
contact your local Kodak Representative or visit our site on the internet at www.kodak.com/go/motion for detailed information about other KODAK Motion
Picture Products.
The following catalog listed products are being discontinued.

8 2 6 8 KODACHROME 40 Movie Film (Type A )
K M A 4 6 4 P Super 8 (3-pack) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 501 0053

7 2 5 5 KODAK EKTACHROME 160 Movie Film / 7255 (Type G)
EG464 S/8 x 50 ft (carded) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 502 2728

7 2 6 7 KODACHROME 25 Movie Film (Daylight)
K M 6 11 P 16 mm x 400 ft (with processing) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 123 2081

K M 5 8 0 P double S/8 x 30 m (with processing) . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 5893

7 2 7 6 EASTMAN PLUS-X Reversal Film / 7276
PXR467 16 mm x 400 ft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 134 6337

7 2 7 8 EASTMAN TRI-X Reversal Film / 7278
TXR434 16 mm x 400 ft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 160 5161

22 EASTMAN EKTACHROME Film / 7239
VND452 16 mm x 1200 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 121 8502
VND430 16 mm x 100 ft, 2R-3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 121 8106
VND432 16 mm x 200 ft, 2R-3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . 121 8262
23 EASTMAN EKTACHROME Film / 7240
VNF450 16 mm x 200 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 162 6969
VNF578 16 mm x 400 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . 162 7108
VNF430 16 mm x 100 ft, 2R-3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . 162 5813
26 KODACHROME 25 Movie Film / 7267
KM455 16 mm x 100 ft, 1R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 157 5638
27 EASTMAN PLUS-X Negative Film / 7231
PXN455 16 mm x 100 ft, 1R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 191 3508
PXN451 16 mm x 400 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . 173 9721
29 EASTMAN PLUS-X Reversal Film / 7276
PXR457 16 mm x 400 ft, 1R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 153 2852
30 EASTMAN TRI-X Reversal Film / 7278
TXR457 16 mm x 400 ft, 1R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 147 2190
TXR450 16 mm x 200 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 147 2166
TXR578 16 mm x 400 ft, 2R-2994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 164 3253
TXR430 16 mm x 100 ft, 2R-3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . 147 2158

With super-8 versions of the above 16mm films probably not too far behind I
guess!!

I am soooo sad right now and a little sick.

Paul Cotto




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[Scottness]

BUT ALSO THIS FROM THE NEWSGROUP:
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> HOLD ON -- NO STOCKS HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED!
> >
> > Read the memo carefully. NO STOCKS HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED. They have
> > only eliminated a lot of duplicates, or rarely-ordered items, but all
> > stocks have been preserved. For example, they discontinued
> > single-perf K25 16mm, but apparently they still offer double-perf K25
> > 16mm. They discontinued many sizes of 7239 (like 1200', etc) but they
> > still offer 7239 in some sizes.
> >
> > Most importantly, K40 S-8 has NOT been discontinued. They only
> > discontinued a catalog # for a three-pack of cartridges, which wasn't
> > offered for sale in their catalog and nobody knew about it anyway.
> >
> > Kodak is still making all the films they used to make, they may just
> > not offer all the lengths and perforation variations that they used
> > to.

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[Hanthx]

Scott

I was just going over Kodak's price list and remembered this post. For my final film project I was thinking about shooting with K25 or K40 double perf for 16mm, and thought...oh no, its going to gone gone soon.
Im gland I revisited this post. Yes Kodak is only eliminating duplicates of these stocks but not the actual films themselves...thank goodness.
I'll probably be the only one using Kodachrome in my project, but atleast I wont need to make a print from my negetive!
Also...I was wondering, what if I cut down the double perf 100' foot loads of K40 or K25 to 25', is it then possible to use it in the 8mm cameras? Finding the spools that its loaded on is no problem, thought it might be fun to shoot regular once in my life time. Im assuming regular 8mm is just 16mm film split down the middle after its processed.

Scott
by the way, have you seen Dwaynes Photo new website...for 9.00 they process your kodachrome for you, and for no extra cost, they will prep it for you for telecine...load it on a big reel with 9' of leader, heads and tail. Not bad. Wonder if I put a letter in the envelope from Walmart stating I would like it prep'd for telecine, that they might do it?



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[mattias]

k25 is in fact being discontinued, and 8 mm film is 16 mm film with twice the number of perforations on each side.

/matt